Hi Chloe,
I have Bartls in my tree so this caught my attention, but I don't see an intersection of your Bartls with mine.
However, to Karen's comment: "There is also a notation in the baptism record that he died 30 Sept 1895 in Beodra," I can add one piece of (unfortunately) negative evidence. The Vojvodina Archives has Beodra death records up to 1895, and, ironically, the very last entry there is for 30 Sept 1895--but the listing is for another individual.
I don't know why the Archives ended with September and don't have the full year listed, but perhaps it will be added later. It's always possible there were more deaths in Beodra on that same date (by the way, Beodra is now called Novo Miloševo). But no death record for Mathias Bartl to be found, so far.
Cheers,
Bill
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:48:14 PM PST, Karen Dalton Preston <karen@...> wrote:
Hi Chloe,
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The St. Hubert family book lists Mathias BARTL’s parents, and references an entry in the Heufeld book as “0160.2”. But that family number refers to Mathias’ sister Anna *1829. It looks like the Heufeld book missed Mathias’ birth.
— From the Famillienbuch St. Hubert, Charleville u. Soltur, Josef Kuehn (2004):
0143 BARTL Mathias, Sv Mathias B. u. Anna Maria Martin 24 J.
*Mastort 30.07.1826, HNr.64
I. PILO Magdalena, (2643.8)
*Charleville 21.02.1830, HNr.58
H St. Hubert, 22.01.1850 Tz: Georg Tollvig u. Michael Massong
Josef Kühn: Fb. Heufeld-Mastort 0160.2
— From the Famillienbuch Heufeld & Mastort, Josef Kuehn (2004):
0160 BARTL Mathias,
MARTIN Anna Maria,
01. Nikolaus *28.10.1824 Mst. 64
?? Mathias *30.07.1826, HNr.64
02. Anna *01.09.1829 Mst. 10
03. Anna *13.08.1832 Mst. oo Jos.Gensinger (0933)
04. Georg *11.05.1835 Mst.
My first thought was that the author had simply missed the baptism of Mathias in 1826. When information doesn’t appear to match-up, as in this case, I go to the original records, which are online at FamilySearch.org.
I am working a new family book for Heufeld that will cover all of the years from 1771-1943, and will include the previously missing years from 1835/1852 to 1895. So I checked my notes. There is a baptism for a Mathias on this date, but he is the son of Mathias WILLING and Maria Marteng/Martin. Mathias Parnell/Bartl was the godfather (this is probably the source of the confusion). So the birthdate for Mathias Bartl given in the St. Hubert family book is incorrect, and this explains why he was missing form the list of children in the Heufeld book.
I checked the marriage record in St. Hubert. Mathias BARTL was married on 22.01.1850, and was 24 yrs old, so * about 1826. Back to the Heufeld birth records, I found a Mathias “BARTOLL/PARTELL" baptized on 14 Jan 1827, son of Mathias “BARTOLL/PARTELL” and Maria Marting/Martin. There is also a notation in the baptism record that he died 30 Sept. 1895 in Beodra.
I have attached a snapshot of the baptism record for you - you can view the full page on the FamilySearch website at - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6H-X2V?cc=4133831&cat=308352 it’s image #183.
Hope this helps,
—Karen
On Feb 13, 2024, at 2:59 PM, Clanterman <clanterman74@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could do a lookup for my ancestor Mathias Bartl in the Heufeld-Mastort Family Book. He was born in Mastort around 1827 and he married Magdalena Pilo in St. Hubert in 1850. I would like to know the names of his parents and grandparents if possible.
Thanks,
Chloe