Re: Jahrmarkt/Stader Lookup Request

Dear Cathy,
I understand now. Apologies. Thank you so much for taking the time to
compile this information. I was able to locate the WK book you
referred to on Family History.
So appreciative of your help.

Kind Regards,
Rose

On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 4:45 PM Cathy Reece via groups.io
<cre29ece@...> wrote:

Dear Rosemarie,
I don’t have Stader—

That was Wilhelm and Kalbrunner entry.This could not be your ancestor as Franz Josef Balle arrived in 1770. Your ancestor may be in there ,as there are some entries from 1749.

I purchased the CD of Wilhelm and Kalbrunner.
The title is:
“Quellen zur Deutschen Siedlungsgeschichte in Südosteuropa”
Language German

I have a note that microfilm number is :
897413

Then my note reads:
Item 4
If that helps. It’s been years since I looked at it.

Authors:
Wilhelm,Franz
Kallbrunner, Josef

I believe it is on:

Familysearch.org

I don’t have the link.

I believe it was on their website following a French book by the name of “Order of the Golden Fleece”

I had to scroll to end of that French book and “ Wilhelm and Kalbrunner “began.


Someone at family history library may be able to help you with it.

Your could post a question to the Banat list and ask if anyone has the link to Wilhelm and Kalbrunner.


Your Stader entry number means that he IS a first settler and Stader series has his entry. The AKdFF library in Sindelfingen could send you YOUR Stader entry.
I believe they charge postage plus a fee for copying. I have not done that yet, but they do have Stader series.

The Schlafkreuzerungen is a list of people who housed new settlers and government paid them money to do so. There is such a list for Bruckenau.
It may help you. That list give the “homeowner’s name and name of settler that was housed”.
It is on Familysearch.org

Family search website has a phone number on it—
You could call them and see if they can help you over the phone.
Also you could buy volume 1 of Stader Series. It might be less costly to request info from library in Sindelfingen.(AKdFF library)

Your could also request. Information for your Jahrmarkt FB entry at Sindelfingen library. They are renovating and it may take a while to respond to you.
Just a tip:
If you find Wilhelm and Kalbrunner entry,scroll backwards to see the date of that entry.

Also if you’re lucky, Stader listed Wilhelm and Kalbrunner for your ancestor.

Regards,
Cathy









On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 5:07 PM Rosemarie Reich via groups.io <rosemarie.reich@...> wrote:

Dear Cathy,

Thank you so much for taking the time to provide the resources. This
is very helpful.
My Ancestor was born about 1731. I know he married in Bruckenau in
1757 to Maria Petri. Deceased 1771.

I will check out the resources and other suggestions you provided.
May I ask about the Stader information you provided? How did you look
that up? Do you by chance have a link?

Balle Franz Josef (close , but not exact spelling you have)if Stader
entry matches W/K entry you have, Stader entry may give more
info.Stader entry would likely list W/K —
WK 119/18 -page 119 line 18
Go to family search to view.

Thank you again, Wishing you a great rest of your weekend.
Kind Regards
Rose

On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 7:25 AM Cathy Reece via groups.io
<cre29ece@...> wrote:

Dear Rosemarie,
In duck duck go search engine I typed in:
Bruckenau Donauschwaben village

I clicked on blue hyperlink:

Brucknau in Banat - Village & Information - DVHH.org

Once on that site: click on
Family Registry and resources

Had links to Schlafkreuzerrechnungen

Those are on:
familysearch.org

Links would not work with duck duck go search engine

You might want to use google to do this.
Bruckenau is a filial parish of Jahrmarkt according to DVHH web site.

Try Wilhelm and Kalbrunner which is also on family search website.alphabetical name index in back of book. Gives you page and line #.
This is a list of settlers who came to Banat and signed in in Vienna and it is day by day arrivals. Some of it is not chronological as other lists are also there.

What time frame are you finding your ancestor in Bruckenau FB?

From Wilhelm and Kallbrunner:
I see a 1770 entry for:
Balle Franz Josef (close , but not exact spelling you have)if Stader entry matches W/K entry you have, Stader entry may give more info.Stader entry would likely list W/K —
WK 119/18 -page 119 line 18
Go to family search to view.
Other names in index you might want to look at.

Bruckenau was an early settlement around 1723 according to DVHH website.

The AKdff library in Sindelfingen has ALL the Family books of Banat and will do look-ups if you send written request. They have Stader series. There is a fee.

Email them in English— they will respond in English.
info@...

There is DGD which is a digital search engine with hyperlinks. I watched a video on it on You Tube. It’s in German but if you turn on subtitles and turn off sound( setting subtitles to English) you could read the subtitles while watching.

You would need to join the AKdFF to use the DGD.
I believe if you have an event- birth,marriage or death with :
Name date and place in Banat.
That would be your starting point and hyperlinks hopefully would appear to connect you with info.
They will send 5 page membership form to you in English via email, if requested. Read carefully permissions you are giving them for information you give to them.
Regards,
Cathy

They are entering Stader entries into DGD data base—
They may have last names starting with “B” in DGD database now.

Stader series and Wilhelm and Kallbrunner do not start at 1723 when Bruckenau was first settled, but if you have a Stader entry # that means your ancestor came later.





On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 7:08 PM Rosemarie Reich via groups.io <rosemarie.reich@...> wrote:

Greetings fellow researchers.

Thought I would try and refresh this lookup request. Is anyone able to assist with this lookup?

I know it's a long shot, as the FB is out of print, but any other suggested resources?

Wishing you all a great weekend.
Kind Regards.
Rose