Yes, i agree. I removed Joseph *1785 from Katharine Krämer. The question mark indicates that the priest in fact did not know where Joseph *1808 was born. He may have believed that he was coming from Sankt Georgen because the Gutenkunst family was present in Sankt Georgen when Joseph *1808 died there. I have two alternative records to examine:
Josef Gutenkunst *1785 oo Margareta Lamm
Josef Gutenkunst *1785 oo Margareta Lamm
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Josef Gutenkunst *1807, died 1812 Deutsch Etschka
Josef Gutenkunst *1814 oo Margaretha Türk, couple moved from Gross Jetscha to Sankt Georgen. The record of Josef is missing bis death date and location. The record you provided could be this missing date. The second marriage of Josef was with Susanna Blau in Deutsch Etschka. Blau died 1831 in Deutsch Etschka. So Josef died as a widow of thwo wifes in sankt Georgen, leaving behind 3 children in Sankt Georgen with Türk.The birth date difference of 5 years isn't unusual because the children did in fac toftne not know when the parents were exactly born, even not where, so this age at death was likely an estimate.
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