Lynette, thank you for your reply. Yes, I also have the old Philipp in my tree. It happened that the Ziwey came along with my Hipfl/Huepfel via Vertesboglar near Budapest into Banat. The families must have been in good neighborhood, since there are several marriages in between over several generations. I do have both, the Brabatz and the Vertesboglar familybook. If you need any help, I am happy to share. I send PM Rudolf
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